Del Tin 5151 Scottish Sword
vs. C.A.S. Iberia 069-PP War Sword
A Couple of Old Trooper
Go At It
by Atrim, SFMO Staff Writer
There has been some interest among collectors for a CAS Iberia versus Del
Tin "One-on-one". Windlass Steelcrafts (India-based owners Museum
Replicas Limited and Atlanta Cutlery) and Del Tin have some
apples-to-apples comparison possibilities. CAS Iberia just does not have
that many offerings that offer a good apples to apples shot. Does it have
to be apples to apples? How about a couple of swords that have similar
dimensions, could have existed during the same time period, and could have
been owned by natural enemies?
The Del Tin 5151 Scottish Sword could easily have been owned by a Scottish
Highlander circa 1400 AD. The sword could have consisted of a blade
imported from Germany and assembled by a cutler with a guard of
distinctive Scottish flavor.
There are a lot of English monuments and illustrations circa 1400 AD that
feature swords similar in appearance to the CAS Iberia sword This sword
could easiy have been made in Merry Olde England (if you ignore the cast
brass guard) and been owned by an English knight.
Back to the present, both swords have been around about a year and a half.
The Del Tin has been used extensively in martial arts practice, the CAS
Iberia has seen moderate use. Both swords show the wear and tear of such
use, though the Del Tin's blade is cosmetically in better shape.
The first cutting test (chopping) target I used was some cardboard tube
2.5 inches in diameter with a 1/4" wall. The CAS Iberia sword sheered
cleanly clear thru. The Del Tin sword sheered thru to the "back" wall
whereupon the sword seized, flexed 30 degrees out of true, vibrating back
and forth "widening" the cut.
Advantage: CAS Iberia
Score: CAS Iberia 1 Del Tin 0
The next target was a piece of 1/4 inch plywood, the same target that
attracted attention from Kent's finest a few weeks ago. After three
strikes into the target the CAS Iberia sword averaged 3.25 inch deep cuts.
The Del Tin averaged 3 inches into the plywood.
Advantage: CAS Iberia
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 0
Since the Highlander and the English knight would most probably be armed
with shields, a shield breaking test seems to be in order. Not having a
shield available, I searched around for an acceptable replacement. I
finally settled on a pallet made of some thick hard wood. Setting the
pallet up on end so the top 1 x 4 could be attacked cross grain, I let her
rip. The CAS Iberia sword's first two strikes sent chips flying. The
third strike the blade caught in the wood, vibrated, and bent. The Del Tin
sword, after striking the target five times did not have the same impact
the
CAS Iberia did. It bounced, bucked, and vibrated a couple of times, but
came thru unscathed.
Advantage: Del Tin
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 1
(Warning, this is just about as abusive a use as there is for a sword)
The next test is a slashing test. After straightening the CAS Iberia blade
I set up a long cardboard box that features 3 layers of corrugated
cardboard .600 inches thick. The CAS Iberia slashed the surface cleanly,
but in the 3 deeper slashes, penetrating all three layers of the
cardboard, the CAS Iberia "caught" all three times. The Del Tin sword
slashed cleanly 2 out of 3 times on the "surface slash"phase, the third
time the sword bounced off, bucked and vibrated. The deeper slashes, the
Del Tin passed thru the cardboard cleanly all three times.
Advantage: Del Tin
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 2
Preparing for the thrusting tests, I inspected the tips for wear or
damage. The CAS Iberia War Sword needed
to be resharpened, the Del Tin was ready for more.
Advantage: Del Tin
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 3
The first thrusting test was the "pizza box toss", both sword maneuvered
fast enough to
"catch" the flying box with a thrust.
Advantage: even
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 3
For the second thrusting test it was back to the 1/4" plywood. Both swords
pierced cleanly,
neither to any real distance.
Advantage: even
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 3
The third thrusting test: The CAS Iberia sword thrust into some cardboard
tube cleanly about an
inch deep three times. The Del Tin sword matched this but did not improve
on it.
Advantage: even
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 3
The 4th thrusting test is a little more challenging. These plastic skinned
55 gal barrels I
sometimes use as a "semi-hard" thrusting target has defeated more than 1/2
the swords used
against them. The CAS Iberia sword bounced off the skin, bent. The Del Tin
sword pierced cleanly to
a depth of 6 inches.
Advantage: Del Tin
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 4
I wanted to attack the steel cans with the swords, but since the CAS
Iberia failed here I deemed it
not a good idea. Besides, I had already attacked the 'cans with the Del
Tin and knew what to
expect.
During the after action evaluation, I decided that I had to account for
the 2 times the CAS Iberia
blade bent.
Advantage: Del Tin
Score: CAS Iberia 2 Del Tin 6
What did I prove during this? Not much really. Besides having fun we
already know that Del Tin makes a better sword than CAS Iberia. And we
already know that some CAS Iberia swords (with an emphasis on some) are
serviceable and can deal with some abuse.
After a year and a half of steady constant use, the Del Tin sword shows
some wear on the leather of the grip, the pommel has developed a dark
patina, the hilt has loosened up a bit but is still serviceable. The blade
shows very little wear, just a couple of scratches on the sides wear I
sheered thru some nails.
After a year and a half of moderate use, the CAS Iberia's wire grip is
coming loose (held together with duct tape), The blade has a couple of
deep knicks in the edges, and deep gouges on the sides where the blade
passed thru some nails.
Additional Notes:
Both swords are "sharp". The Del Tin sword has been a daily
martial arts practice sword for me for over a year. So I keep it sharp.
The CAS Iberia sword was resharpened for this test. As soft as the CAS-I
blade is, it sharpens quickly (and loses its edge quickly too)
There is a difference in blade geometry. The DT is .188 inch thick
(4.75mm), the CAS-I is .21 inches thick (5.25 mm). The DT's sides are
flat, the CAS-I's are gently hollowed. The Del Tin has a fuller more than
half the length of the blade, the CAS-I is flattened diamond.
The weight of the CAS-I is 3 lbs 6 oz. The weight of the DT is 3
lbs 4 oz.
From the guard, the CAS-I's pob is 3. 7 inches. The DT's is 4.9
inches. There is quite a difference in the handling of the two. After
handling the DT, the CAS-I's grip is a little clumsy
Both swords have cop's about 22 inches from the guard.
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